Charlie answered a question a bout Gnosticism which he originally heard as Narcissism. The question was better with Narcissism. He of course started talking about an Apollonian vs. Dionesyan view of thought, in the mind or in the senses. I did not yell out that I refuse your false dichotomy. While Charlie was stuck in a Cartesian duelist view of the world, Cory was stuck in a deconstructionist reductionist view of consciousness.
I did like how both Cory and Charlie tried to relate their work to its contradictory philosophical origins in Christian philosophy of original sin and post-Enlightenment thought on ever increasing progress.