Thursday, February 23, 2006

Pull tab urban legend made real

I saw this little box and poster for the Ronald McDonald house to collect and donate soda pop tabs. I said to myself, this can't be real, this is the urban legend where people were convinced to collect pull tabs to exchange for kidney dialysis time. Was I a witness to an urban legend out in the wild? There was a phone number on the poster so I did more investigation.

Yes, Ronald McDonald house collects pop tabs for recycle. In my discussions with the local Ronald McDonald house personnel, I asked some questions and found out a few things. Why not recycle the whole can instead of just the tab? They say that the tab has more aluminum in it than the rest of the can. This is not true according to snopes, and common sense.

They do recycle the tabs. They get $0.42/lb of tabs and raised almost $4000 in 2005 by recycling about 7 million tabs. The money raised goes to pay bills for families that use Ronald McDonald house that are not covered by other donations or funding. Ronald McDonald house has a noble mission: Provide a "home away from home" for families of seriously ill children receiving treatment at nearby hospitals.

The staff was very nice to me and showed me their tubs and tubs of pull tabs and provided the information above about the program. Still, I can't but help there is a better way for them to raise funds for their cause. Why not recycle the whole can, at 14 grams it weighs more than twenty times what the tab (0.6 grams) weighs. The person who had the tab had the can, it would have been 20 times more money raised. Better still, just collect pennies instead of the tabs. There are 181 pennies in a pound, that's $1.38 extra per pound for the charity.

I felt so bad for their misjudgment that I got some information about donating and I am sending them a check. Maybe their pull tab collection program generates donations after all.

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50 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yo Bro...great post! You should also post the link to the Ronald McDonald House, just in case your readers get the spirit to donate cold hard cash too.

Anonymous said...

i started collcting tabs to turn it in for $. but i can't find anywhere to turn them in. i might as well donate them to the RM huose.

Anonymous said...

Part of why they probably don't collect the whole can is lack of room to store the cans till they recycle them. The pull tabs are much easier to store and then they don't have to do as many trips to the recycling place. My whole family saves their tabs and we send them off every so often.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know of a Animal Rescue center that might do the same as the RMH? If so please email me and let me know! marlittledevil@aol.com or how I might go about starting a program for a local animal shelter

Anonymous said...

Don't waste your time with those silly pull tabs. My 70 year old mom got my family hyped-up on saving for 'whatever charity'. We have saved thousands of tabs. This summer, my sister set us straight, and brought up the urban legend fact. I also agree with snopes, that it would be better to ask each tab donor to give you a penny in its place. To put this in even clearer perspective, 100 pull tabs have a scrap metal value of 3¢.
Ronald McDonald House just sells the tabs for scrap. Lets write 'em a check instead.

Richard said...

The last commenter gets it. It would be better for Ronald McDonald house to collect pennies instead of pull tabs, they would make much more money. Jojo should read the post clearly, you can compress cans if you need the space.

Anonymous said...

*sigh* Some of us can't afford to put a penny in place of the tabs, but still want to donate to these organizations. I live in Michigan, where I get $.10 for every can I bring back to the store, with or without the tab. Also, I can bother all of my friends and relatives for their tabs and drop them off at my local McDonalds reseraunt whenever I want. It takes a lot less room then lugging garbage bags full of cans there, not to mention it's not as expensive for the local place to mail them to corporate. Think positive people!!

Anonymous said...

It actually costs MORE to mail the tabs in than what they are actually worth when cashed in. Send a check instead for the money you receive after you've recycled the entire can yourself!

Anonymous said...

My son, who is only 9, heard of this charity and decided to participate. He made a very impressive presentation to his teacher, principal and student council, asking for the entire school to become involved. In just three short months, he and his classmates have collected over 90 pounds of tabs. Yes, it would be easier, and more profitable to ask each family to write a check. However...we live in a community where finances are very tight...most people cannot write a check for charity at this point. Also, what are the kids learning this way? They can't write a check. They aren't making a difference...their parents are. This helps out the Ronald McDonald House...little as it may be, but it ALSO teaches a very valuable lesson to our kids about community outreach, comppassion for others, and working together for the common good, don't you think? I am amazingly proud of my otherwise shy and introverted son to go to such lengths to get this program going. He has learned, and taught, and terrific lesson in charity to his classmates and many adults also.
As for the cost to mail the tabs, my husband and I will be driving our son to the Ronald McDonald house over Christmas to hand deliver the tabs. This way he can get a first hand look at where they are going, what they do there, and who is benefitting from them. We will take pictures to share with his classmates. It's time stop being so negative and encourage our children to take steps in community outreach, instead of letting them grow up thinking so negatively that unless you have a large bank account, there's nothing you can do to make this world a better place, so why try?
Enough of the negativity. If we only managed to give them $5 worth of tabs, I would still be ever grateful for the lesson my son, and so many other children have learned!

Richard said...

I tend to be a results oriented person. The objective is to help the Ronald McDonald House provide an important service - helping families stay with their sick kids during treatment. A task almost as important as the treatment itself.

How do we accomplish this task? They need money and volunteers. They also might want to get maxiumum effect from the efforts of their donors. Nancy's son's 90 pounds of tabs will yield about $38, but it would have been about $162 if he had collected pennies. I won't even subtract the cost of everyone's time spent collecting the tabs.

I suppose that if we add in all of the intangibles of the experience for her son there is some great effects happening there, but for Ronald McDonald house we are still left with only $37. I'm not being negative, it's simple economics. Perhaps it is only simply math.

Jojo, you can crush cans down to a much smaller volume. I should have borrowed some tabs and crushed cans and added a density calculation to this post to fend off that arguement.

As for pennies instead of tabs, you bought the soda the tabs came from. Skip every 100th can and donate that money. It's just like you collected 100 pennies.

Please understand me, Ronald McDonald house is a worthy charity and performing charitable works is noble, character building, and an important part of everyone's responsibility to society. However, try to get the most bang for your charity buck or time and choose your donation mechanism carefully.

Anonymous said...

You make some good points, however, I stand firm that what my son and his schoolmates are doing IS a good thing, and worth the effort. So, he's managed only $38 instead of $162. That's $38 they wouldn't have received if he hadn't started the campaign at the school. And besides, it's not as if it was his idea to use tabs....it's the Ronald McDonald House ASKING for them! If they were to stop asking, my son would find other ways to make a difference, but they ARE asking for these tabs.
You say it cost us also in the time and effort it took to collect those tabs. I beg to differ. I certainly wouldn't call pulling one of those tabs off a can an effort, if you do...then perhaps you need to start working out just a tad. You set a can somewhere in your home so that when a can is finished, off comes the tab and drop it in. Can gets full..take it to school. Yes, he collects them from our church to add to the pile. Again, people bring a can or baggie of them in, he sticks it in the car, we take it along to school the next day. To claim we are wasting time and effort is ridiculous!
In what he is doing, my son is answering a call for help. Just as he did when his school was looking for donations last year to send to aid in Darfur. And just as he did when the Make A Wish foundation was collecting pennies for patients. That money came from his own small bank of coins. And he's spent his allowance many times to purchase can good for holiday food baskets, and for care packages sent to our military men and women over in Iraq. It's the kind of kid he is. You call for help, he's first in line!
When we called the RMH to arrange a day to bring in the tabs and takes some pictures to take back to school, the woman was overjoyed at the prospect of over 90 pounds of tabs from one little boy and his school. SHE has to know it wouldn't amount to a large sum of money, yet she was thrilled to take them, because they asked for them.
Think what you will, but PLEASE do not make my son's efforts and compassion out to be just a waste of time and effort that does no good.

Richard said...

I didn't say that Nancy's son's efforts are not good, charity is good. I just think that they are not as good as they could be for the effort expended. I also think that when opportunities for charity arise we should jump at them. The discussion is not about doing good, it is about doing the most good for a given effort.

By effort I mean economic effort or opportunity cost, not the negligible effort of plucking the tab from the can. Is it better to spend an hour of my time (or many people's time) collecting pop tabs or to donate the hourly wage I forego (by doing that charity for one hour) to Ronald McDonald house instead? I am guessing that given the low recycle value of the tabs the most effective choice (in donations given) is to give an hours wage.

This is not a discussion about the warm fuzzy feeling of performing tab collection drudgery to donate a small amount of money to Ronald McDonald house, it is about appropriately applying economic theory to the most effective way to give (time, talent, money) to charity.

In my discussions with the folks at Ronald McDonald house they said that they take the tabs because people give them to them (probably because of the kidney dialysis urban legend from long ago). They would much rather have the money, but they have decided to make the most of the situation by accepting the tabs and turning them over for recycle.

Money is still more effective, you just think you don't have the money because you spend the time instead. Yet in this particular case, it would be better to take the time spent on the charity, get a wage paying job, and donate the money earned to the charity. It's just economics.

Anonymous said...

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT EVERYONE HAS ACTUALLY FORGOT ABOUT TEACHING OUR CHILDREN TO HELP WHEN THEY CAN AND TO ENJOY DOING IT, IT IS ABOUT NOT SPENDING ANY EXTRA MONEY DOING SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE WE MIGHT NEVER MEET, BUT ARE ABLE TO HELP IN THE SMALLEST WAY, IT IS NOT ABOUT HOW BIG THE GIFT WE ARE GIVING BUT THAT WE ARE TAKING THE TIME TO GIVE, MANY PEOPLE WONT EVEN BOTHER TO GIVE THESE DAYS, IMAGINE WHAT WE COULD GIVE IF EVERYONE EVERYDAY WOULD JUST SAVE THOSE FEW TOPS FROM A SODA CAN, "MILLIONS A DAY". I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SPECIAL TRASH BINS JUST FOR THE TABS ON CITY STREETS, HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO BET THE DONATIONS WOULD SKY ROCKET. IMAGINE THE GOOD WE ALL WOULD FEEL THEN.

Richard said...

I suppose if it is about feeling good then you can choose to do anything that makes you feel good.

The question here is how to help The goal is to enable Ronald McDonald house to help the families of children stay with them near the hospital during treatment. I am sure these families want everyone to feel good but they may also have the more pressing concern of finding a way to stay with their child.

The point of the post above is what is the most effective way of helping Ronald McDonald house. No one has given a conclusive reason why tabs are better than almodst anything else, I chose pennies because they are almost as easy to collect. Most of the arguements center around the intangibles or side issues of how the giving makes the giver feel instead of how the giving helps the receiver.

I suppose I could add up all of the effects of a particular act on the entire society and come up with a monetary or utilitarian or happiness amount, but this is just not the point of the arguement, and still doesn't help the receiver.

Once again, for the non-mathematically inclined - 1 million tabs = 1321 lbs of tabs = $572 of donation to Ronald McDonald house vs. 1 million pennies = 5524 lbs of pennies = $10,000. You have to move 4 times as much weight I admit but you get almost 20 times more cash. Which do you think is better for Ronald McDonald house and the service they provide?

Anonymous said...

Okay, for those complaining that not everyone has money to donate...I'm sorry but if you have money to buy the pop in the first place you have money to donate. simply giving the 50c that the soda cost covers you for collecting over 1200 pop tops. In addition to donating more you are helping reduce obesity and diabetes in yourself and kids by giving that pop money to RMH directly.
I agree that kids should be taught how compassion towards others and community involvement. The pop tab collection at least provides that, however ineffective it may be.

Anonymous said...

This is not an economic argument. It is a mind and heart-share discussion that has evolved to be far more valuable than pennies and cans.

RMH has established a program and now invested in it enough to have gained brand equity through its efforts in addition to the cold cash it brings. Our local RMH averages $1,100 a month through this program. That is one house in one city. Do some math and it will become apparent that this program has teeth.

The reach grows and with it, the levels of participation which in turn becomes an exponential cashflow.

Ok Mr. Economics, argue that one. ;)

Emma, please congratulate your son on his efforts. He has participated in the time-honored tradition of service to others from the heart. That is far more valuable than any can, penny, or check.

We grow leaders by allowing them to lead in their own small way as they move from childhood impulses and projects to a lifetime of giving. That is the greatest bounty a program like this could ever hope for. Keep doing what you are doing mom!

Anonymous said...

I have been collecting pull tabs for someone that has cancer for a while now. Even though it may take a lot of them to get a little, they are appreciated. It only takes an extra second to pull a tab and every little bit helps. If everyone would save them and send them in with a little extra donation, think how it would all add up.

Anonymous said...

When my mother in law asked us to participate in this program I was very skeptical. However after researching it, and hearing direct feedback from the kids that are collecting it from their school programs and how proud and appreciative they are I've changed my tune. EVERY LITTLE BIT COUNTS. Anything that in addition to feeling good for making a contribution, and makes a difference, small or large is worth it to me. And I'm happy to say we will be saving our tabs from now on. It's easy for folks with money to say "write a check", it's far more impressive to me when someone actually spends their TIME to help.

L.A. said...

As far as collecting pull tabs is concerned, if the Ronald McDonald Houses didn't want to be bothered with them, THEY WOULDN'T SOLICIT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE! Have we gotten so lazy in this country that we think it's too much of an effort to break off a little bitty pull tab? SHEESH!! This is for CHARITY, folks!

The poster whose 9-year-old son collects these pull tabs has the right idea. This is a terrific and easy public-service project for kids. As the poster said, kids can't write a check. They're right. Kids can't write a check, but they (and anyone else) can collect pull tabs. C'mon, people! Get down off your sanctimonious, check-writing high horses and take this pull-tab effort in the proper spirit. Yeah, RMH would probably get more money for entire cans rather than just the pull tabs, but the pull tabs are easier to store. (Even compressed cans take up more space than pull tabs.)

So those of you who want to and are able to, go ahead, write a check, but as I've said, if RMH didn't want to be bothered with the pull tabs, they would never have asked for them to begin with.

(BTW, soda doesn't make you gain weight -- IF you drink DIET soda!)

Anonymous said...

If you read the Ronald McDonald website about the pop tab collection, it states: "To date, more than 400 million pop tabs have been collected, generating more than $4 million." That is equal to the whole penny theory. Also, they take tabs from more than just pop cans. They also take them from vegetable and soup cans, and pet food cans. I agree that it would be nice to take the whole can to be recycled and give the money, but I admit, I don't want to spend the time to find a recycle place and turn it in. Whereas, my mom collects the tabs, but I see her once a year maybe a couple times more. I sure am not going to keep all the pop and soup cans around my house until I see her even if they are smashed. Also, many cities have curbside recycle, couldn't an organization work out a deal with the city to take all the aluminum and turn it into cash for themselves? People don't have a problem donating when it is convenient.

Anonymous said...

I've got a better idea. If your state has a bottle bill, take the can (after pulling off the tab) and redeem the topless can for the nickel (dime in Michigan) and then donate the money AND tab to Ronald McDonald House!

Anonymous said...

I am the Community Outreach Manager at the Ronald McDonald House of Indiana. How interesting it is to read how some people REALLY GET IT, and others not-so-much.... ;)

Not only is the pop tab program a major fundraiser for our House (bringing in over $66,000 last year alone), it also brings HUGE exposure to our mission and what we are doing here in Indiana.

For example, just today a small group of special needs children visited the House, dropped off gallons of tabs, and toured the House to learn more about how even they are helping other people in crisis situations.

Ironically, while I was writing this response, a lady called to tell me that this Friday, December 21st, will be her 10th anniversary of collecting tabs! She has never even been to our Ronald McDonald House, but I let her know how much her effort is appreciated, invited her to come see the facility she is supporting, and we have an appointment Friday morning even though she will need a friend to drive her the 2 hour trip!! She said, "My friends tell me to turn the tabs in for the money, but I just wouldn't feel right about that. It's not what it's about."

Furthermore, the pop tab program is to many the introduction of philanthropy; it starts with the tabs. But because we make a big deal out of it, appreciate our donors, and excite them about helping others, this act more than not leads to donations in other forms (food for our pantries, new children's books for our library, gifts for Christmas, etc.). It also inspires groups to coordinate meals for our House guests, as well as plan and manage their own fundraisers benefiting our Ronald McDonald House.

If you are looking for a place to send the proceeds from your recycled pop tabs that will truly be appreciated, please visit our website at www.rmh-indiana.org for an address. We hope that you will continue to serve your community HOWEVER you choose, whether it makes the most "cents" or not.....

Anonymous said...

Hi, just wanted to tell you my experiences. For pull tabs really are worth the small hassle of collecting them. For a milk gallon full of pop tabs you can get anywhere from 50-70 dollars depending on the price per pound at the time. You will never get this much money out of cans that would only take up a gallon size jug. You do in fact get more per pound for pop tabs because they are "clean" Meaning they have no colors added to them or other substances that they use to stretch the aluminum and such. So the price per pound for tabs and cans and even crushed cans is different. So if you were a company doing fundraising space would be a big issue. If you are mailing the tabs to the RMH then you should look for drop off spots. My daughters school has a collection bin as do libraries and other businesses. If you ask around you can find a drop off to save you the money of mailing them. If you collect for yourself then its just more money in your pocket for pulling a tab off of a can u are crushing. I don't see how this is not worth it.

Anonymous said...

It's much easier for a Ronald McDonald House if the donor recycles the tabs (preferrably the whole can) and sends them the check.

The most unfortunate is when somebody spends $5 to ship a shoebox full of tabs which is worth less than a dollar.

Unknown said...

There are some real idiots on here. Just recycle your cans monthly (no one says you have to save them a whole year and find a place to store them). Then send the check to a charity of your choice.

If you're just collecting the tabs, you're throwing away 19/20 of the potential donation. What about that doesn't make sense?

Richard said...

Anonymous from 2/13/2008 is wrong about the amount you can get for a milk jug gallon of pop tabs. One cubmaster figured out
that you can get anywhere from 3450 to 4720 tabs into a gallon container depending on the packing and whether the curly connectors are removed from the tabs. That is 4.5 to 6.2 lbs of tabs/gallon, which is $1.89 to $2.79/gallon container of tabs as scrap. There is no premium for the metal in the tabs, they are not "clean". Sorry, no money making schemes or kegs from a gallon of pull tabs.

This thread has gotten new life from the false rumor about the high value of pop tabs in a gallon jug or container. Perhaps it is some special property of the milk jug?

Anonymous said...

I Use A Hawiian Punch Container And Fill It Every 3-4 Months With Pop Tabs I Also Have One At My Church And And My Bingo Parlor And When One Is Full I Diliver It To The Ronald Mcdoald House

Anonymous said...

For All These People That Have Money To Put Gas In These Oversized SUV's & Hummers The Least They Can Do Is Give A Little Back

Anonymous said...

The Sell Pop Tabs On Ebay So Anyone That Doesnt Know That. There There. And Oftern In Large Quantities

Chris12312 said...

The reason they don't use the whole can is because you can still get the 5cent deposit on them without the tab. And there is nothing wrong with putting the tabs in a bucket and letting them build up. This is a good way of doing it because if your poor or rich, you can always save the tab. If this isn't enough, all charities take cash. Here is the link to the RM house guild to the tab program. http://www.cnyronaldmcdonaldhouse.org/documents/Pop%20Tab%20Resource%20Guide.pdf

Unknown said...

A relative worked for Alcoa Aluminum's reclamation operation, and says the TABS are made from a BETTER GRADE of aluminum - and therefore are worth more per pound than cans. They can be taken to a Ronald McDonald House, with no postage necessary. Many churches, clubs, and even campgrounds have people in them who will gladly take them in for you. We save ours till we meet one of these people.

Unknown said...

Using the numbers provided in the RM House guide to the tab program (posted 8/04), one case of 250 cardboard houses, used to collect tabs, costs $32.50. That means each house costs $7.69, and at 40 cents/lb that's equivalent to the value of 19.2 lbs of aluminum or 24,358 tabs. However, each house only holds 850 tabs, so you'll have to fill up each house 29 times before you can break even.

It makes more sense to send a check to RM House for $32.50, than to buy these houses and distribute them.

Unknown said...

32 pull tabs are worth about 1 cent, so, if you put aside 1 cent for every can you use, at the end of the month you'll be able to make a donation that's worth 32 times more than the value of the pull tabs.

Even the RMH charity will be more appreciative of a gift of $1 than 100 pull tabs (worth 3 cents).

cola said...

Huh, I agree about the whole can part. They might not have enough room. And child can't mail checks ,so they use tabs. It's good for kids and the cause.Charity's mean well to.

Richard said...

A recent post in Boing Boing has commenters divided roughly the same way as on this post about the value of the tab collection vs. the intangible benefits of little Timmy collecting pull tabs at school. Time to guiltily donate to Ronald McDonald House because i feel bad about the waste of time that pop tab collecting is.

Anonymous said...

A colleague at work just got bitten by this urban legend.
I've seen the stat on RMH website 400 million tabs, more than 4 million dollars. Google it, it's everywhere. I want that exchange rate for aluminum, that's $10 a pound! (a tab is .6 grams), ~1000 tabs make a pound.
To the person who said if everyone participated, it would be millions a day, sorry, you suck at math. There are ~ 300M people in the US, who consume less than 2 12 ounce sodas a day. Google it - US soda consumption per capita. Even if this was all cans, and not super big gulps or bottles, that is at most 2 pop tops per person per day, or 600,000,000 pop tops per day. 25cents / 1000 = $150,000 a day. Which is a very high estimate anyway. Like everyone with a brain is saying, just recycle the whole can.

Justin M. said...

OK people, I'll be blunt. Pull tabs are just that east to collect!! They compact VERY well; give people a chance to keep the House in mind every time they open a coke, beer, or energy drink (quite often); and hey - they DON'T STINK. I collect tabs and sell them back to the recycling center at our local RMH in Johnson City. Believe me, we would rather have a check (tabs are very heavy..) but this is yet another clever way to keep the House at heart and subsidize our donations/ income.. Hope that Helped!

Richard said...

Justin, no that didn't help.

The point of my post and of the various comments against pull tab collecting is that any amount of time you spend pull tab collecting is sub-optimal for supporting the Ronald McDonald house. If you want to help them take the time that you would spend collecting and get a minimum wage job and donate that money, that would be more money than collecting tabs. Or collect pennies which have more $/lb than pull tabs.

brendabarker said...

To all those out there with negative thinkgs to say...or a more efficient way...Everyone should take the time to donate in the WAY that is BEST for them. Just because you have an idea of what the BEST way is....You are forgetting the main point and that is that we all should do what we can do to help each other out and as long as we are doing GOOD...there is no BAD way to do it. To the little boy out there collecting, YOU are doing a GREAT job. Keep it up!!!!To anyopne out there who is ONLY voicing your OPINION I suggest doing what this little boy is doing and that is ACTION. Ronald Mc Donald House gladly accepts other forms of donations such as virtual cards for holidays etc and I participate in those, as well as donations of other kinds...I also save pop tabs because every little bit adds up and I encourage all my friends to as well, because we have HEALTHY kids - our budgets are tight and we give when we can...Drop your tabs off at your local Mc Donalds.
Taking the time to pull the tab from a can takes just a second, keep a collection container nearby. It is easy. But bottom line is DO WHAT YOU CAN...Every LITTLE bit helps

Anonymous said...

do you get money for the can tap if you donate them

Anonymous said...

Here is the best part... we can pull the tabs AND send a check since both are beneficial in some way

ShadeofDeath said...

I would think they only collect the tabs and not the whole can just because the tab is a small sacrifice. I mean, out here in Northern California I know that people are very anally retentive about their recyclables because in a lot of cases the money from recycling is a substantial part of their income. Plenty of working individuals whose entire paychecks go to bills and expenses use the money from recycling for their recreation. Removing the tabs doesn't affect the overall weight of the recyclables and it is fro a good cause. Right now in the town I live in, one of the recycling centers is offering $100 for every milk jug full of can tabs and donating the money it makes from recycling them to keep children on life support.

HeloniLynn said...

It's not a misjudgement. They don't ask for the cans for two reasons: A. It's more hygienic to collect tabs then cans (and this is the reason they put on the Ronald McDonald House official website) & B. People can pull the tab off and donate it and still collect the cans to turn in for money for themselves thereby doing a good thing and getting their personal gratification all with the same can. It's a calculated action. Nobody misses the pop can tabs but they might not be willing to let go of their pop can money.

Tonya said...

WOW- I agree with tons of things said on here, I don't really DISAGREE with anything anyone has said except about the child who is doing what he can to help. He's a baby helping other kids like himself (same age) because they're in a more dire situation than he is. The LEAST he can do is get his school friends involved, but if you think about it, it's the MOST he can do too! (since he can't "write a check" For god sakes there is good coming out of the situation period! He's donating tabs which turn into money, and he's learning an extremely valuable technique for later on in his life, while also TEACHING other kids to do the same thing by getting them involved as well. Geez, congratulate the kid instead of letting his good deeds go un-noticed. I agree with another post on here that says NO ONE donating to a CHARITY is doing it in a BAD way or LESSER way, everyone is different, so everyone do it your different way and know you're doing a good thing for good people in need, AND you feel good about it! How about that? Then we'll alllllll get along! I also like the comment on how you can keep your cans, and donate the tabs AND write a check if you want to do that. I ALWAYS throw extra change in the RMH buckets they have posted under every single cash register in Mcdonalds. That helps too, little by little it helps. And guess what?? I don't just throw pennies in there either!

Sooooo...for the people that are "more fortunate" to write checks and donate pennies, thank-you for letting me know that my "little" ways of helping are less appreciated than my tabs. I will now start to collect pennies and then donate those since they make more money for the cause. However I can't help myself but to think that you will still "out-do" me and you will start to save quarters! Are you really doing it for the right reasons? Or to brag about it? Let's not forget what the REAL reason they need the money is for. Whether it adds up to 32 cents, or $17.00 or $66,000 or 4 million dollars, MY LITTLE BIT HELPED GET IT TO THAT NUMBER AND SO WILL YOUR LOT A BIT!!! Thank-you and please understand that I'm definitely not trying to be argumentative, just simply stating my opinions just like others are. I do understand however that your opinion may have to "out-do" mine.

noryy said...

I totally agreeeeeeeeeee. Thanks lol.

Unknown said...

Can Drinks typically involve a beverage that's full of sugar or alcohol, both detrimental to your health! Instead of fussing over the tab or the can itself, every time you get a craving for a canned drink deposit the $1.25 or so it would have cost into a piggy bank. Come the end of the year donate the cold hard cash to a charity. 1) you saved some aluminum from entering the waste cycle. 2) improved your health by avoiding detrimental substances. 3) donated more cash than all the saved cans and tabs combined could ever net. 4) you can file for a tax rebate.

Unknown said...

McDonald's donates a dollar for every tab donated to the Ronald McDonald house.

Richard said...

Anthony, I very much doubt that, though it would be great if they did. Do the math. Bins and bins full of pull tabs, a dollar per pull tab is a lot of money. Perhaps a source from McDonalds that you could point to for your information?

I allowed your comment so that others could see the logical fallacies that continue to surround pull tab collections for charity.

anonemus said...

There was a very brief period of time when a donation of a pull tab dropped off at McDonald's resulted in a $1 donation from McDonald's corporation to Ronald McDonald houses. That promotion ended decades ago. Both Alcoa and Reynolds have stated that pull tabs are not a more valuable, purer form of aluminum. I understand why people refuse to accept that. It is true that pure aluminum is quite valuable. That would be extremely pure aluminum used for some highly scientific process. Extremely pure aluminum doesn't go into pull tabs. Listen to what Alcoa and Reynolds say. Don't listen to rumor. Look at the facts published time and time again. The Kidney Foundation has stated that it was never true that pull tabs were buying time on dialysis machines. https://www.kidney.org/news/newsroom/newsreleases/0100 Snopes has explained all of this. http://www.snopes.com/business/redeem/pulltabs.asp So have Livestrong. http://www.livestrong.com/article/196999-recycling-aluminum-tabs-vs-cans/ If you are a parent looking for a teaching moment for a small child, fine. If you are a college student collecting pull tabs for a charity, you are using your time very inefficiently and encouraging others to waste their time. Donate your pocket change instead. Spend your time studying instead of collecting pull tabs. The highest value you can get for aluminum pull tabs is selling them on eBay to people who don't understand how little they are actually worth. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=aluminum+pull+tabs

Unknown said...

How much money have you donated? The point is helping every little bit helps so save your tabs and if you have extra money donate it to you are being disrespectful if you have the money to donate good for you for the ones who don't but are collecting tabs at least they are doing something and it will help some family out it might not be a lot but every little bit helps